Bro Jeramy, can you further elucidate how non gb members are able to force their hand? Have you personal experience of the workings in the upper echelons?
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Half banana
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Does The Governing Body Have Enemies At Bethel?
by Brokeback Watchtower ini would think that a lot of resentment is building up for these for these guys at bethel even though it may not be discussed openly for fear of being abused by the gb in some way.. any way looking at their personality and the extreme phoniness of rubber mouth/face lett, and am#3, and the chicken shit coward leosch who won't even show up in court when subpoena'd to defend his faith or policies, and i'm sure they have many more undesirable traits that repel people instead of attract and that has to work its toll on relationships they have at bethel.. and this shunning thing i'm sure must really erk some at god's house and while they may not be free to voice their discontent i feel it must be building because these guys are complete nincompoops when it come to reality and the only way they know how to give direction is with fear and guilt which i'm sure is rubbing a lot of people the wrong way.. and let not forget the issues that are raise when they stole all the congregations savings and the pledge drive for more cash, ban on higher education, lawsuit pay out and etc.... what is this doing to the relation ship they have with legal and accounting i see trouble brewing right thier in the spiritual pair of dice..
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Kingdom Interests
by punkofnice inin a few words, how would you describe what 'kingdom interests' really means?.
i think it means watchtower corporation's assets, posessions and rules..
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Punky, I think that "kingdom interests" in Watchtower talk ultimately means feeding the personal pride that each member the gb has in perpetuating their imagined privilege as a "God's appointed."
"Kingdom interests" and "serving Jehovah" are among the rally cries of the gb... all result in greater wealth and glory for the governors and more personal sacrifice in the live's of their flock.
But hey! It's not working at the moment... to keep that glory they need the money and hence kingdom interests demand they resort to humiliating begging and stealing.
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Bible Chronology, Egyptology and the Great Flood
by cappytan infact: bible chronology says the flood occurred between 2348 and 2370 bce, depending on which scholar you listen to.
fact: the great pyramid of giza was constructed 200 years before, in c. 2560 bce..
so, if you believe in a literal interpretation of noah's flood, you believe that the egyptians built a great civilization, were destroyed by the flood in 2370 bce, and then somehow, they reappeared immediately after the flood, picked right back up where they left off without skipping a cultural beat.. oh, and isn't it ironic that legitimately studying the great pyramid of giza debunks jw mythology now?
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@ marmot, are you aware that the word mammoth is drawn from a Russian dialect word meaning marmot? Mammoths in Siberia always appeared under the ground like giant tusked moles hence the allusion to marmots (from a word meaning earth). -
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Bible Chronology, Egyptology and the Great Flood
by cappytan infact: bible chronology says the flood occurred between 2348 and 2370 bce, depending on which scholar you listen to.
fact: the great pyramid of giza was constructed 200 years before, in c. 2560 bce..
so, if you believe in a literal interpretation of noah's flood, you believe that the egyptians built a great civilization, were destroyed by the flood in 2370 bce, and then somehow, they reappeared immediately after the flood, picked right back up where they left off without skipping a cultural beat.. oh, and isn't it ironic that legitimately studying the great pyramid of giza debunks jw mythology now?
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Quite so Vidiot but from the point of view of potential punters, the JW religion is beginning to look like it's stuck in the middle ages. -
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Bible Chronology, Egyptology and the Great Flood
by cappytan infact: bible chronology says the flood occurred between 2348 and 2370 bce, depending on which scholar you listen to.
fact: the great pyramid of giza was constructed 200 years before, in c. 2560 bce..
so, if you believe in a literal interpretation of noah's flood, you believe that the egyptians built a great civilization, were destroyed by the flood in 2370 bce, and then somehow, they reappeared immediately after the flood, picked right back up where they left off without skipping a cultural beat.. oh, and isn't it ironic that legitimately studying the great pyramid of giza debunks jw mythology now?
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Half banana
JW thinking is more and more out of step with modern thought. To uphold its fairy tale beliefs such as the flood and Adam and Eve requires ever more credulity and ignorance. This means that JWs with a glimmer of intelligence have to live with ever greater cognitive dissonance to remain in the congregation. GET OUT NOW BEFORE THEY STEAL YOUR REMAINING BRAIN CELLS!
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Jehovah's Witnesses 2015 Regional Convention Saturday PM experience parents shunning children
by Watchtower-Free inclip 3 minutes long.
ron and brenda sutton ................warwick 3 children
it was the missed association with family that brought them back.
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Half banana
How loving a provision Jehovah has made through his loving organisation to lovingly cut off your children if they choose not to follow the JW org. Only a god of love and a loving organisation could come up with such utter heartless crap.
The end result is what the JW org is already getting: a loveless cult full of uneducated suckers who only attend out of being shown conditional love. Very sad.
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2015 Regional Convention Anthony Morris Governing Body encourages coerced baptism of unwilling children ...again
by Watchtower-Free inthis is from the last talk of the convention ......... clip 1:30 minutes longhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrej8tlyiso&feature=youtu.be.
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You have to be a bit odd to get your cousin to plunge you under water to serve an invisible sky god. Its a cult and always was a cult. It only appeals to the hopeless, lonely and undereducated. -
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Does The Governing Body Have Enemies At Bethel?
by Brokeback Watchtower ini would think that a lot of resentment is building up for these for these guys at bethel even though it may not be discussed openly for fear of being abused by the gb in some way.. any way looking at their personality and the extreme phoniness of rubber mouth/face lett, and am#3, and the chicken shit coward leosch who won't even show up in court when subpoena'd to defend his faith or policies, and i'm sure they have many more undesirable traits that repel people instead of attract and that has to work its toll on relationships they have at bethel.. and this shunning thing i'm sure must really erk some at god's house and while they may not be free to voice their discontent i feel it must be building because these guys are complete nincompoops when it come to reality and the only way they know how to give direction is with fear and guilt which i'm sure is rubbing a lot of people the wrong way.. and let not forget the issues that are raise when they stole all the congregations savings and the pledge drive for more cash, ban on higher education, lawsuit pay out and etc.... what is this doing to the relation ship they have with legal and accounting i see trouble brewing right thier in the spiritual pair of dice..
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Half banana
Interesting Brokeback, in Jungian terms I guess that the individual GB members share the experience of the “emergent self” collectively as leaders within a religious power fantasy! In this corporate realisation they have lost contact with the ground and feel authorised to fulfil their psychotic destiny regardless of the feelings of their flock.
The accountants however will bring them back down to earth with a bang!
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The perpetual End of the World
by Half banana inone thing common to human culture is a belief that god will punish a dissolute world.
the earliest reference i have encountered is from a cuneiform tablet 4800 years old:.
an assyrian clay tablet dating to approximately 2800 bc was unearthed bearing the words "our earth is degenerate in these latter days.
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.....or should I say we were very sad people!
@ prologos, a moebius strip is a very good illustration of the 1914 overlapping generation excuse---in other words too complicated! Ever tried cutting one in half along its length?
They should have come clean last year and finally admitted, "Yes were are just a doomsday cult".
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The perpetual End of the World
by Half banana inone thing common to human culture is a belief that god will punish a dissolute world.
the earliest reference i have encountered is from a cuneiform tablet 4800 years old:.
an assyrian clay tablet dating to approximately 2800 bc was unearthed bearing the words "our earth is degenerate in these latter days.
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Half banana
Vidiot, I’m sure you are right, some unfortunate people have nothing but trouble and injustice in their lives, divine retribution is all they might hope for...many must be JWs. Also there are those who have nothing to lose, so to become a JW is a step up in the social ranking, from the gutter up to the lowest rung of the ladder. For others who have no chance of ever achieving anything in life; simply the impossible hope of eternal paradise is enough for some to stick with it...but they are very sad people.